Current Amateur Teams in Widnes ?

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Current Amateur Teams in Widnes ?

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Post by johnf » Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:28 am

Just a question re the strength of the amateur games in Widnes at the moment.

How many amateur teams do we have and do they field teams at all age groups ? Being away from the town I've lost track and was wondering if the game was still viable at the amateur level, at least in Widnes ?

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Post by Steve McDonald » Wed Apr 04, 2018 9:50 am

Think The Tigers, Halton Hornets, West Bank and Simmies still have open age teams.

Not sure about kids teams although I am pretty sure the Hornets have loads!

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Post by welsh wizard » Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:22 pm

Steve McDonald wrote:Think The Tigers, Halton Hornets, West Bank and Simmies still have open age teams.

Not sure about kids teams although I am pretty sure the Hornets have loads!
Moorfield have a few kids teams

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Post by Steve McDonald » Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:52 pm

West Bank do too, my son has been training there for the past year or so ready to start playing in September.

Numbers are always good too.

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Post by DLM » Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:04 pm

Halton Farnworth Hornets, West Bank Bears and Moorfield have good youth set ups with kids at many age groups. I think Widnes St Marie's also still have 1 kids team too I believe.

In open age Halton Farnworth have 2 teams, West Bank, Simmies, Widnes Tigers and Runcorn.

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Post by RB » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:43 am

Their is a lack of depth.
Tends to come home to roost from Under 14's onwards in particular as teams fold due to players finding other things to do.
U14's 2 teams (West Bank, Farnworth)
U15's 1 team (Farnworth)
U16's 1 team (Moorfield)
Widnes as a town still producing decent players but not in great numbers and not like it used to do.
Its a problem throughout the North West Counties, maybe becuase Widnes is a smaller place than Warrington, St Helens, Wigan it seems to be more apparent here but the problem is region wide.
Widnes Players can fan out to neigbouring towns & clubs just to get a game or for other reasons. At U16's their are Widnes Players at Blackbrook, Newton, Crosfields, Thatto Heath but only Moorfield in the town. Their is no Union team in Widnes at U16's. My best guess would be 35 players at that age group playing regular club rugby which is not good.
At Under 16's Scholars Widnes based players (top age group only) I think Widnes 3, Saints 3, Wigan 2 = 8.

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Post by Steve McDonald » Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:47 pm

I watch a lot of U7's rugby and there seem to be loads of players at all clubs.

It's keeping these kids engaged which seems to be the issue.

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Post by Flash » Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:29 pm

Steve McDonald wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:47 pm
I watch a lot of U7's rugby and there seem to be loads of players at all clubs.

It's keeping these kids engaged which seems to be the issue.
Is it not more a case of when kids get to U13/14, the pro clubs hand out scholarships, and those who don't make it are then either left with no one else to play with or think "what's the point"?

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Post by Torn Sock 1 » Wed May 01, 2019 10:51 am

Partly that Flash, and the fact that when they get to 16/17/18 they find booze & women and generally other things to do of a weekend.
The move to summer was meant to encourage young kids to train/not play in a mudbath, and that problem has been solved, but in the mean time created problems for other age groups.
Other thing is that pretty much all junior games are played on a Sunday. Sure some of the older ones would be better moved to a Sat/Fri in summer months.

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Post by RB » Tue May 07, 2019 10:52 am

Flash wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:29 pm
Steve McDonald wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:47 pm
I watch a lot of U7's rugby and there seem to be loads of players at all clubs.

It's keeping these kids engaged which seems to be the issue.
Is it not more a case of when kids get to U13/14, the pro clubs hand out scholarships, and those who don't make it are then either left with no one else to play with or think "what's the point"?
That's not my experience.
Scholarship Players play with their community clubs until after Under 16's.
Teams are folding at U13's, U14's, U15's, U16's becuase not enough kids want to play Rugby find other things to do.
Its a problem affecting all sports.
Most schools don't appear to be playing team sports on a regular basis. You can get a kid at 13-14 and then spend time teaching them to catch.
A Halton schools Rugby Tournament / Cup as they do in St Helens would be a help. If the Club haven't got the finances to help. The Club / Council should try to get into the schools and ask the amateur clubs to help with coaches. They would probably do this to recruit players themselves.

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